Comments on: Can Ymax Negotiate Seamless Handoff Deals For Its FemtoJack? http://www.femtojack.org/femtojack/can-ymax-negotiate-seamless-handoff-deals-for-its-femtojack/ A Complete Resource For The Magic Jack Femtocell Mon, 14 Feb 2011 05:39:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.5 By: Rich http://www.femtojack.org/femtojack/can-ymax-negotiate-seamless-handoff-deals-for-its-femtojack/comment-page-1/#comment-2720 Rich Mon, 25 Oct 2010 21:07:51 +0000 http://www.femtojack.org/?p=119#comment-2720 Lisa's argument is NONSENSE. There is no guise. This is clear cut. Either operators' licenses are exclusive even into someone's home or it is not. And if it is not Femtojack is a go. And as far as I know from personal and professional experiences and experimentation, within the boundaries of someones private space they can operate varying frequencies within the electromagnetic spectrum provided it stays withing said boundaries (which will merely require tweaking). Why didn't you give one example of a case of your nebulous "tons of legal precedent on this - all in favor of the operator" speech. Furthermore implying that the femtojack takes an iphone and turns it into a voice only phone and thus you not seeing the value in that, is like saying someone who has $100 and is given an additional $10 to use when they wish now only has $10. You make it seem as though once a smartphone is used with femtojack it can never be used as a smartphone again. That argument is sheer nonsense. The additional flexibility of being able to make overseas calls extremely cheap without using up my minutes at a time I so decide is a BONUS. And when I decide I don't want to use said bonus I can go back to using the other features of my smartphone. The development of the atom bomb was exponentially more difficult than this and yet it ultimately worked and so will this. I agree with Chris. You seem to have a vested interest in seeing this not work. Too much hate. So which cell service provider do you work for really?? Lisa’s argument is NONSENSE. There is no guise. This is clear cut. Either operators’ licenses are exclusive even into someone’s home or it is not. And if it is not Femtojack is a go. And as far as I know from personal and professional experiences and experimentation, within the boundaries of someones private space they can operate varying frequencies within the electromagnetic spectrum provided it stays withing said boundaries (which will merely require tweaking). Why didn’t you give one example of a case of your nebulous “tons of legal precedent on this – all in favor of the operator” speech.

Furthermore implying that the femtojack takes an iphone and turns it into a voice only phone and thus you not seeing the value in that, is like saying someone who has $100 and is given an additional $10 to use when they wish now only has $10. You make it seem as though once a smartphone is used with femtojack it can never be used as a smartphone again. That argument is sheer nonsense. The additional flexibility of being able to make overseas calls extremely cheap without using up my minutes at a time I so decide is a BONUS. And when I decide I don’t want to use said bonus I can go back to using the other features of my smartphone.

The development of the atom bomb was exponentially more difficult than this and yet it ultimately worked and so will this.

I agree with Chris. You seem to have a vested interest in seeing this not work. Too much hate. So which cell service provider do you work for really??

]]> By: kh http://www.femtojack.org/femtojack/can-ymax-negotiate-seamless-handoff-deals-for-its-femtojack/comment-page-1/#comment-1215 kh Thu, 12 Aug 2010 13:19:35 +0000 http://www.femtojack.org/?p=119#comment-1215 This article is 8 months old now, I don't know if there's been any progress, but I think the only way this would happen is if the carriers were required by law to provide the seamless handoff. And/or maybe they could charge a fee for the service. This article is 8 months old now, I don’t know if there’s been any progress, but I think the only way this would happen is if the carriers were required by law to provide the seamless handoff. And/or maybe they could charge a fee for the service.

]]> By: gkowalchuk http://www.femtojack.org/femtojack/can-ymax-negotiate-seamless-handoff-deals-for-its-femtojack/comment-page-1/#comment-998 gkowalchuk Wed, 21 Jul 2010 03:37:47 +0000 http://www.femtojack.org/?p=119#comment-998 August 2010, NO UPDATES, NO NEWS, NOTHING! ok, how about a little tidbit gossip so was can at least say the topic is not dead. August 2010, NO UPDATES, NO NEWS, NOTHING!

ok, how about a little tidbit gossip so was can at least say the topic is not dead.

]]> By: chris http://www.femtojack.org/femtojack/can-ymax-negotiate-seamless-handoff-deals-for-its-femtojack/comment-page-1/#comment-917 chris Wed, 14 Jul 2010 04:40:35 +0000 http://www.femtojack.org/?p=119#comment-917 lisa and jim...what cell service provider do you 2 work for...? -.- lisa and jim…what cell service provider do you 2 work for…? -.-

]]> By: gkowalchuk http://www.femtojack.org/femtojack/can-ymax-negotiate-seamless-handoff-deals-for-its-femtojack/comment-page-1/#comment-221 gkowalchuk Fri, 23 Apr 2010 17:57:02 +0000 http://www.femtojack.org/?p=119#comment-221 Mack... Are you on holidays? It's almost May and no news since January? NO NEWS IS NO GOOD. Mack… Are you on holidays? It’s almost May and no news since January?

NO NEWS IS NO GOOD.

]]> By: cj http://www.femtojack.org/femtojack/can-ymax-negotiate-seamless-handoff-deals-for-its-femtojack/comment-page-1/#comment-107 cj Tue, 23 Mar 2010 21:11:26 +0000 http://www.femtojack.org/?p=119#comment-107 Actually for the iphone the use of a wifi connection to the net would enable all the features you would be missing and femtojack would allow the calling. This is meant to be used to enable a cell user that lives in an area where cell reception is not good in your dwelling...yes I know shocking there are places in this country that have limited cell connectivity! :) Also this would allow you to choose a plan with fewer minutes, keeping those pesky kids from using up all your minutes!! ;) Actually for the iphone the use of a wifi connection to the net would enable all the features you would be missing and femtojack would allow the calling. This is meant to be used to enable a cell user that lives in an area where cell reception is not good in your dwelling…yes I know shocking there are places in this country that have limited cell connectivity! :) Also this would allow you to choose a plan with fewer minutes, keeping those pesky kids from using up all your minutes!! ;)

]]> By: Jim http://www.femtojack.org/femtojack/can-ymax-negotiate-seamless-handoff-deals-for-its-femtojack/comment-page-1/#comment-82 Jim Thu, 11 Mar 2010 00:48:51 +0000 http://www.femtojack.org/?p=119#comment-82 Lisa nailed it. The carriers will not give MagicJack the time of day. Lisa nailed it. The carriers will not give MagicJack the time of day.

]]> By: RAFAEL http://www.femtojack.org/femtojack/can-ymax-negotiate-seamless-handoff-deals-for-its-femtojack/comment-page-1/#comment-42 RAFAEL Sat, 13 Feb 2010 23:39:34 +0000 http://www.femtojack.org/?p=119#comment-42 I DONT THINK THIS WILL WORK BECAUSE YOU WILL BE USING A NUMBER THAT MAGIC JACK GAVE YOU AND IF YOU GET OUT OF RANGE YOU WILL BE ROAMING OR WHAT IF YOU HAVE AN ATT OR TMOBILE NUMBER FOR THAT CELL PHONE WELL MAYBE IM WRONG LETS SEE WHAT HAPPENS ONCE THIS FEMTO JACK COMES OUT I DONT THINK THIS WILL WORK BECAUSE YOU WILL BE USING A NUMBER THAT MAGIC JACK GAVE YOU AND IF YOU GET OUT OF RANGE YOU WILL BE ROAMING OR WHAT IF YOU HAVE AN ATT OR TMOBILE NUMBER FOR THAT CELL PHONE WELL MAYBE IM WRONG LETS SEE WHAT HAPPENS ONCE THIS FEMTO JACK COMES OUT

]]> By: Lisa http://www.femtojack.org/femtojack/can-ymax-negotiate-seamless-handoff-deals-for-its-femtojack/comment-page-1/#comment-22 Lisa Mon, 25 Jan 2010 16:24:50 +0000 http://www.femtojack.org/?p=119#comment-22 I don't think you are missing anything. Operators paid millions of dollars for the spectrum that Ymax is using in subscribers' homes under the guise that their license doesn't extend into these homes. There is tons of legal precendent on this - all of it in favor of the operator. The FCC left some spectrum unlicensed just so homeowners would have a band in which they could transmit. This enables licensed signals to function without interference from rogue transmitters (like magicJack's femto). Unlicensed spectrum is what WiFi and cordless phones use. As noted in your posting, the operators have zero incentive to enable these handoffs. The magicJack femto takes a cool full featured device like the iPhone and turns it into a voice only phone. Not sure I see the value there..... I don’t think you are missing anything. Operators paid millions of dollars for the spectrum that Ymax is using in subscribers’ homes under the guise that their license doesn’t extend into these homes. There is tons of legal precendent on this – all of it in favor of the operator. The FCC left some spectrum unlicensed just so homeowners would have a band in which they could transmit. This enables licensed signals to function without interference from rogue transmitters (like magicJack’s femto). Unlicensed spectrum is what WiFi and cordless phones use. As noted in your posting, the operators have zero incentive to enable these handoffs. The magicJack femto takes a cool full featured device like the iPhone and turns it into a voice only phone. Not sure I see the value there…..

]]> By: Stuart Friedman http://www.femtojack.org/femtojack/can-ymax-negotiate-seamless-handoff-deals-for-its-femtojack/comment-page-1/#comment-18 Stuart Friedman Sat, 23 Jan 2010 15:29:42 +0000 http://www.femtojack.org/?p=119#comment-18 The only way I could see it is if Magicjack negotiates an MVNO agreement with the carriers. The only way I could see it is if Magicjack negotiates an MVNO agreement with the carriers.

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